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Joe Gresham - 12/28/00 20:15:29 Ethnicity: Confederate Country: C.S.A. State: Kentucky

Comments: Make whatever assumption as to my "ethnicity"...you might be surprised. Your favorite weapon is to call someone else racist, while it is you, that are the racists. This site is nothing less than than a hate siteCould you for one minute imagine a naaWp? or a Congressional WHITE Caucus? How about a Miss WHITE America pageant, or a White history month? Let me set the record straight, You can't see anyone without first seeing their color...that's RACIST. Southern people have since the earliest settlers, co-existed in harmony, until the yankee trash agitators, came in and stirred certain elements up. Southerners of all colors have been a separate and distinct people, with civility, decency and mutual respect...I know that is not the "distorted facts" that you wish to advance but it is the truth. I guess I'm wasting my breath but YOU ARE DEAD WRONG,SIR! Why is it "racist" to respect and revere white ancestors, and it's not to do the same for black ancestors? You want it both ways....You are a cancer on humanity...and I for one will not roll over, attack my heritage...and you're attacking me and I will fight back! If you don't like Dixie, "Go North, Dumb man!"

Sonny Leger - 12/27/00 14:58:05 My Email:RebelSonny@yahoo.com Ethnicity: Southerner Country: CSA State: Florida How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: You have to be one of the most ignorant people I have seen on the net yet.Your site is full of socialist propaganda.It is good that you acknowledge thAt fought for the Confederacy.but it was not a handful as you insist.It was approximately 90,000.10 perce t of all slave holders were black.It is funny thing with the NAACP,most of them claim to be Muslim,funny thing is in most parts of the world Muslims still practice slavery.You are a BIGOT pure and simple.YOu are a bigot in a worse way.Because you cry raci m but you are a racist.And that dumbass is hypocritical.It was not the Southerners whom enslaved blacks.It was your fellow brothers as you like to call them.It was your own people whom sold each other into slavery.And slavery is still practiced there.Inst ad of messing with Southern heritage,why don't you go free your oppressed brothers in Africa.For you to bad mouth the flag you are doing a grave disservice to the blacks who fought for the Confederacy.As far as outlawing the flag.You can start by banning nd removing my flag that flies on my property.You stated that people whom fly the flag should be treated harshly.I tell you what come treat me harshly.Come try to take my flag down I got something for ya. Southern Pride PowerWood

SRE - 12/27/00 13:48:24 My Email:sere@prodigy.net

Comments: I forgot to include my e-mail addy in previous post. The rest of your questions are none of your business, you BIGOT. One more thought....If the NAACP would spend as much time, money and energy to the abolition of slavery in modern day Africa as they do in their attempts to spread hate for all things Southern, think how much good this organization could do. SRE

SRE - 12/27/00 13:23:48

Comments: You, sir, are the most bigoted, uninformed, ignorant form of socialist. I cannot understand why people like you cannot leave the battleflag and other aspects of Southron culture alone. If you don't like us, ignore us. We aren't trying to take anything rom you. We abhore slavery as much as you probably do and virtually no Southerner would ever wish it to return. Your tolerance for the African American culture is commendable. Your IN-tolerance for the rest of the Southern culture is deplorable. SRE

Trudell - 12/27/00 05:06:26 My Email:lewis_lindsay@hotmail.com Ethnicity: what the hell does it matter State: NC How did you find our page?: email

Comments: I'm sick of people putting down the South and complaining about how their ancestors were slaves. I'm sick of the KKK using the Rebel Flag(also uses the American Flag). I'm sick of the NAACP (National Assoc. of Always Complaining People) and its hate. Y s, that is what they are...and hate group. I'm sick of people saying "Your Heritage is My Slavery". The hell it is your slavery. Half the people don't know what work is so how do you even have a clue what slavery is all about. I will continue to honor all 6 of my ancestors that died in the War of Northern Aggression. Instead of complaining that my ancestors were slaves why don't you do something constructive for a change and honor the blacks that fought in the war. That's an idea for you, huh? I'm b ing blunt and frankly I don't give a damn what you think because I'm sick of all the crap that the South has dealt with. Enough is enough and 2001 is the year that things are going to change.

Mick - 12/27/00 02:47:42 My Email:mh27@highlanders.net Ethnicity: Irish/Southern Country: Occupied C.S. State: Alabama How did you find our page?: Link

Comments: Hello All, I find this site quite interesting. I can see that the forces that have us southerners under occupation (black and white southerners) have really done a good job in keeping our two races at each others throats over this issue. Let me ask anyone who wants to listen, why in the 1960's when integration was forced on us here in Alabama (much against the will of blacks as well as whites) did it get so much airplay when our governer "stood in the door" and peacefully moved when final y he was asked, instead of ordered by federalised troops to move. ten years later in the happy (regular)U.S.A. in Boston, where they hated slavery, and all things that were associated with the south, why didn't they just peacefully accept forced bussing, hy did they riot? You see brethren, I'm southern, I know that slavery was abbhorent. It was a concept that was brought from the old world to the new. It had to go. I'm glad it did, however, I for one know as I have studied the point to long that blacks fought to preserve t e Confederacy as well as they did the union, not to preserve slavery, slavery was strong in the U.S. as much as in the C.S. The U.S. wants the south divided, they have for years. They know if we (blacks and whites) will love one another, get along like we ought to, that the south will once again become strong and probably take back our rightful nation. That is a nation of black and white (and all other colours). The U.S. government doesn't want that. As Honest Abe said when asked "why not let the south just go?" he said, "Who would pay for the government. Black and white brethren, let us not be fooled any longer by the oppressors of the southern nation. Let's work out our problems and move forward in good faith with one another. We all know that any one southerner (black or white) is better than ten yankee , we can out work, out fight and I'd dern near say out "anything" that they can do. God Bless, Mick P.S. a good read on Black Confederates can be found at, www.37thtexas.org/html/BlkHist.html open your minds and you may see what I'm saying a little better.

Claude Sinclair - 12/27/00 02:17:05 My Email:clsinclair@infoave.net Ethnicity: American 1/8 Cherokee 7/8 white Country: USA State: Beautiful SC

Comments: Sorry to differ from your opinion. Of my 40+ ancestors that I have traced that fought in the War Between The States, none owned Slaves. I have a book written by a black Howard University on Black Slave owners. Published by USC. African American Slave y can be traced to West African where in some parts, it is still practice. Doesn't make it right but the whole history should be presented. I fly a Confederate Flag and am anti racist. All you need to do is ask my friends, white and black. I do fam ly history and I am proud of my heritage.

Grinch - 12/27/00 00:34:57 My URL:http://www.southern_outlaw.homestead.com/index.html My Email:southern_outlaw@worldmailer.com Ethnicity: Southern Country: CSA State: Occupied Georgia How did you find our page?: Bigot alert

Comments: SOUTHERN PRIDE! Well just what we need yet another hate filled site cluttering up the net. I put this site up thier with that of the naacp, kkk, nazis and the rest of the hate mongers on the net. Spread your hate and lies like the virus it is, it does no healing but only angers. Yall keep attacking our heritage, commiting cultural genocide against the South with you unionist lies and propaganda. The Southern people will eventually quit being so c vilised and ram your hate down your throats. The cause for a free and independent South is growing day by day and your hate tactics are helping our cause. DEO VINDICE! FOR A FREE SOUTH! Grinch Southern Cross MC http://www.southern_outlaw.homestead.com/biker.html

Clay S. - 12/26/00 23:55:41 My Email:RebelPride1861@aol.com Ethnicity: Southern Country: Confederacy State: Occupied Texas How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: I beleive that our great Confederate flag is in no way a racist symbol or a reminder of slavery. This is especially true seeing that I am in NO WAY a racist person. True, it can be looked upon in this way....but this is only a result from ignorance of hi tory. Please dont get me wrong....ignorance of certain time eras in history are encouraged by our government. I noticed that you said, that anyone flying the Confederate flag should be treated like a overseer, slave holder, etc. By this statement I gue s you mean that it should be ripped down and forever banded from the view of the world. Well sir, I am flying a Confederate flag as we speak.....and if anyone came upon MY PROPERTY to take it or harrass me about it....the consequences would not be in the r favor. This is not a threat to anyone.....but a warning to those who think that I'm alone in my stand. Thousands....dare say millions feel just like me...some wont admit it publicly.....but others like myself do. Although many people dont beleive us, we dont want violence (the majority of us) and we only want like our great former Confederate President once said "...to be left alone." Our proud Confederate heritage has been ripped, twisted, replaced, and misrepresented since Reconstruction. I urge e ch of you that see this to think long and hard about YOUR ancestors....be it North or South. Be proud of their bravery. I assure you that once you grow proud of your ancestors.....you will know what I am talkin about. I remain, Loyal to the Cause, C.S.

Johnny Reb - 12/26/00 23:48:10 My Email:CSA is here to stay@Southern Borders Ethnicity: Confederate American Country: CSA/USA State: SC How did you find our page?: email

Comments: This must be one of those web sites that informed people speak of that should be filtered due to its false content. Spreading this kind of hate and deceit against the Confederacy, it's Flag and true Heritage displays lack of courage, self esteem and appar nt education. You are spreading ignorance that is self evident with your piss poor ethical mistruths. I certainly hope that maintaining this web page is only part time for you because you are trying to sell an item that is cheap, unworthy and of no use to anyone that can read for its true value. GET A JOB!!!

Allen - 12/26/00 23:15:05 My Email:Tlk01@msn.com Ethnicity: white Country: US State: SC

Comments: Why dont you get your head out your ass! Sure some asshole use my flag for their jackass organizations,but people like me who are raised in the south and respect the true meaning of this flag have nothing to do with these jackass's.I dont know if your fro the southern or northen state but I hope you love your heritage as much as I love and respect mine. People like you have no understanding of how a true southern person feels and never will. So once again get your head out your ass and learn about the tru suothern person before you want to take my flag. Thank you & God bless the CSA, Allen

- 12/26/00 17:32:08 My URL:Don't have one Ethnicity: White, Black, Indian, English, Irish, French, Northerner, Southerner (I'm sure I'm leaving out something) Country: The "United" States of America State: one of the 50 How did you find our page?: providence

Comments: If you plant a seed of Hate, what will grow from it? -Hate. There are elements of hate on both sides of this issue.

Geoffrey Pope - 12/26/00 15:38:40 My Email:phanloan@earthlink.net Ethnicity: W. European (white) Country: USA State: New York

Comments: I'm of "mixed" ancestry (Mom a Pittsburgher, Dad from rural Florida). I have zero sympathy for white supremacy, Jim Crow, racial or religious bigotry. I send my children -- one of whom is white (biological) and the other Asian (adopted from Vietnam) to eavily (more than half, if you count white Hispanics as "minority") schools -- by choice. In younger days I worked in antiwar, civil rights, and left-of-center groups, and we teach our kids that hatred, or feelings of superiority or inferiority based on kin color or where your ancestors came from is "the stupidest thing se can think of." All that said, I think your efforts against the Confederate flag are wildly misguided. The reason is that the sin of racism, and the oppression of black people, was NATIONWIDE, North and South, in the 19th century. The South fought, perhaps, to maintain slavery not, I think, in perpetuity, but for a time -- but the North emphatically did N T fight ao abolish slavery, much less to admit blacks to a position of equality. You have to judge people in the context of the time in which they lived: the North had profited enormously from the slave trade, had gotten rid of slavery mostly on pragmat c grounds, and was living (thanks to the tariff system etc.) in large measure at the expense of the South (which is to say that the North, even those parts of it that did not still have slavery, was benefiting from Southern slavery indirectly). Then, hyp crites that they were, they (the Northerners) used the slavery issue to demonize the white Southerners, because the latter were tiring of the cash flow running from South to North. Lincoln was an avowed, and indeed a virulent, white supremacist (he wante to "colonize" which is to say DEPORT blacks), and Northern states passed laws barring freed blacks from settling within their borders. Emancipation was a last-ditch war measure, largely to keep England and France from recognizing the Confederacy. And, hile it may have been asserted in a wrongful cause, on the Constitutional issues, the South was correct. What would better have happened (however painful it is to say it) is that the South should have been permitted to secede, and slavery should have bee phased out there, over a couple of decades, with the blacks educated and trained in preparation for freedom. Not for a minute do I say that that would have been a perfect solution, but it would have been and evil lesser than the South being invaded, fla tened, with hundreds of thousands on both sides being killed and many more maimed and the South (which was and is home to a big part of black America) not consigned to a still-continuing secondary economic position (black and white alike). And also, the great majority of whites fought for the Confederacy for reasons other than preserving slavery. And they fought very bravely, and it is no crime to honor them. Attacking Confederate symbols suggests letting Northern whites off the hook, and buying into the Northern myths that the South was bad, the North good, and that liberating blacks (rather thank subjugating the South for economic reasons) was why the war was really fought. Also, the "Stars and Stripes" flew over slave ships, slave states, and Jim Crow America and can likewise be deemed a "flag of slavery." And finally, slavery endures in roughly a score of countries TODAY, including Mauritius and several black African stat s, and if we hate slavery, maybe we should attack the display of those flags. If a recent immigrant from Africa wants to display his country's flag, and that African country is one in which there is slavery (or the oppression of one African ethnic group y others) he can (in my view) fly it if he loves it IN SPITE OF its shortcomings and wrongs. That's how I feel about my Dixie "half" (I have lived about 45 of my 50 years in the North): I love it IN SPITE OF the racial history. Remember too that Malcolm X, before his more serious entry into Islam made him more enlightened, was a racist who hate all white people, said we were the devil. If I see a black kid wearing a Spike Lee-inspired "X" hat, am I not being short-sighted if I get on his case because Malcolm, for a time, hated white people? It's the same, I think, with Confederate symbols. Respectfully, y'all got bigger fish to fry. With best wishes.

- 12/26/00 12:54:10 My Email:starmom2000 Ethnicity: What does it matter??? Country: USA State: Md How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: I have lived in Maryland all my life, & it is known as the FREE STATE-- because it was in between the North & the South--- BUT , there were slaves here abundantly. Now, I never believed in slavery, & we had a runaway slave stay in our family, my cousin al eady told you about that, but what ia past is past, & when you make a comment like on your home page about "good white folk" that's being judgemental too. WE ARE ALL HUMANS, IF YOU WOULD STOP CATAGORIZING EVERYONE AS WHITE,( EXCUSE ME HERE, BUT IF I WEN AROUND SAYING I'M IRISH/INDIAN/GERMAN/SCOTTISH/AMERICAN I WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE BUT SAY MY HERITAGE!!!!!) OR AFRO/AMERICAN, THE WORLD WOULD GET ALONG BETTER!!! We are ALL AMERICANS, not a color or class. When ANYONE clearly makes the statement of GANGSTER--- what would one immediately think of???? I know, I know, it's GANGSTA-- whatever-- it's the same thing. Stop trying to make people think you're the way you DON'T want them to think you are---understand? Don't call attention to the bad thi gs--work on the good things in life---together with everyone. You make it rougher on yourselves, then start this about a FLAG, for God's sakes, to take the pressure off of yourselves. You keep racism going, on & on by bringing up the past, instead of h aling us, YOU, ARE OPENING THE WOUND UP & FESTERING IT. Dont' keep throwing your Heritage up in everyone's faces---I don't-- & if ANYONE has the right to BITCH ABOUT A FLAG--- THEN I AS PART NATIVE AMERICAN SHOULD WANT THE GODD OLE AMERICAN FLAG TAKEN DO N & MY TRIBES BANNER FLY HIGH!!!!!!!! PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE & SMOKE AWHILE---

- 12/26/00 12:43:40 My Email:starmom2000 Ethnicity: What does it matter??? Country: USA State: Md How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: I have lived in Maryland all my life, & it is known as the FREE STATE-- because it was in between the North & the South--- BUT , there were slaves here abundantly. Now, I never believed in slavery, & we had a runaway slave stay in our family, my cousin al eady told you about that, but what ia past is past, & when you make comment like on your home page about "good white folk" that's being judgemental too. WE ARE ALL HUMANS, IF YOU WOULD STOP CATAGORIZING EVERYONE AS WHITE,( EXCUSE ME HERE, BUT IF ALL WEN AROUND SAYING I'M IRISH/INDIAN/GERMAN/STOTISSH/AMERICAN WE WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE BUT SAY OUR HERITAGE!!!!!) OR AFRO/AMERICAN, THE WORLD WOULD GET ALONG BETTER!!!

- 12/26/00 12:43:39 My Email:starmom2000 Ethnicity: What does it matter??? Country: USA State: Md How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: I have lived in Maryland all my life, & it is known as the FREE STATE-- because it was in between the North & the South--- BUT , there were slaves here abundantly. Now, I never believed in slavery, & we had a runaway slave stay in our family, my cousin al eady told you about that, but what ia past is past, & when you make comment like on your home page about "good white folk" that's being judgemental too. WE ARE ALL HUMANS, IF YOU WOULD STOP CATAGORIZING EVERYONE AS WHITE,( EXCUSE ME HERE, BUT IF ALL WEN AROUND SAYING I'M IRISH/INDIAN/GERMAN/STOTISSH/AMERICAN WE WOULD NEVER GET ANYTHING DONE BUT SAY OUR HERITAGE!!!!!) OR AFRO/AMERICAN, THE WORLD WOULD GET ALONG BETTER!!!

Crash - 12/26/00 11:01:59 My Email:southernwhiteboy Ethnicity: American by birth, Southern By the Grace of God Country: CSA State: VA., via Fl How did you find our page?: email

Comments: I grew up in Manassas, Va. The Confederate Battle Flag was made in Honor of the Men who died at Manassas! It was taken from the St. Andrews Cross from Scotland. The Civil War was over economics, not slavery. Slavery was thrown in when Lincoln was losi ' the war! My Great, great grandfather Joseph Slider, was in the 19th Va. Cav., Co. A & H. He invited a slave to stay on his farm. The slave is buried there with my great, great uncle Owen. So ya think it was about slavery? Better learn how to read!!

George - 12/26/00 09:13:21 Ethnicity: Southron Country: CSA State: South Carolina How did you find our page?: search

Comments: To paraphrase a line from the NAACP's anti-Confederate flag decree: No white man in his right mind should support the NAACP. Try as you might, you can't justify to me what the NAACP really is: A klan with a tan.

- 12/26/00 06:17:01 Ethnicity: Southern White Country: USA by force CSA by choice State: Va. How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).

- 12/26/00 06:16:58 Ethnicity: Southern White Country: USA by force CSA by choice State: Va. How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).

- 12/26/00 06:16:51 Ethnicity: Southern White Country: USA by force CSA by choice State: Va. How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).

- 12/26/00 06:11:28 Ethnicity: Southern White Country: USA by force CSA by choice State: Va. How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).

- 12/26/00 06:09:16 Ethnicity: Southern White Country: USA by force CSA by choice State: Va. How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).

- 12/26/00 06:07:41 Ethnicity: Southern White Country: USA by force CSA by choice State: Va. How did you find our page?: Email

Comments: Do all Blacks have a one-track mind? It seems that all they think about is that their ancestors were slaves. Well get over it. If someone told you that your great grandfather was a king, would that put a smile on your face for the rest of your life? Would that solve all of your problems? Even though it would not change anything. If you are so worried about slavery, why don't you stop your African cousins from practicing slavery in the twenty-first century? I suppose it is not as bad being a slave to a blac man today as it was to a white man a hundred and thirty-five years ago. I dont think that you are bothered by modern day slavery. Nineteenth century slavery is what really bothers you. You are separated from your ancestors by time and your African cousin by miles. One you can do something about the other you cannot.As for the Confederate battle flag that you hate so much. No one was ever a slave for one minute under that flag. It was never an official Confederate flag.It was strictly a battle flag. Howev r; if you are needing a flag to hate I have a couple of suggestions. Blacks were slaves from 1619 to 1776 under the British Union Jack.They were then slaves from 1776 to 1865 under the Stars & Stripes. Note, Lincoln didn't abolish slavery. The thirteenth mendment abolished slavery eight months after Lincoln had died. As far as hating the white man as much as you do for making your ancestors slaves , you should be very thankful every day that your ancestors were brought to this country for whatever reason. Show me one country that is predominantly black that is prosperous. Don't even think about South Africa. That country was built up by the white man. What about the other African countries, or even Haiti. Average income in Haiti is about $100 per year. You dont see many fat Africans or Haitians, even though we send them tons of free food and medicine. If it wasn't for the white man the USA would be just another Africa or Haiti. If you are equal or superior to the white man, why do you always insist on affir ative action and anything else to give you an edge (acquireing government contracts, jobs,etc)? If you really believed that you were equal you would insist on a level playing field. You would not ask for an advantage. If you think that you are the fastest runner in the race you do not insist that you be given a few yards jump on the other runners. Only a person who thinks that he is inferior would insist that he be given an advantage. Even the NAACP would have to shut down if it wasn't for the money extort d from white corporations. If you could check your genealogy (I know it's hard when 3/4 of blacks are born out of wedlock), I am sure some of the loudest whiners would find that their ancestors owned slaves in the USA as well as Africa. Also, many of you ould find your ancestors that did not own slaves were Confederate soldiers. For the Blacks that cannot get over slavery, I will see if I can find some cotton for you to chop. Then you will really have something to complain about. Maybe, even find some new ebonics to use on the white man. As far as Southerners fighting for slavery, very few Confederate soldiers owned slaves. Think about this for a minute. If you do not own any slaves, wouldn't you have to be a damn fool to be willing fight and die to prese ve slavery? If you think that living in the USA with the white man is so bad, just look at some pictures of some Africans. Between aids, starvation, battle scars, and ignorance, they are a sight to see. You can count their ribs as you can see them. Even t ough we send them tons of food and medicine, they do not get food stamps every month along with free health care whenever they need it. If they get free housing, you can bet that it is at best equal to the lifestyle of a homeless person. Look at the educa ion opportunity that this country offers (not that most of you take advantage of it). One more thing that I want to mention is the prison population. Blacks make up approximately 12% of the population of the USA and approximately 55% to 60% of the prison opulation. I am not talking about white collar crimes either. I am talking about violent crimes. Of course I am sure that white people commit the crimes, but we imprison black men in their place. Yes sir, we white folks sure have made life hard for all yo poor black folks. We force you to sell and take all those drugs. We won't let you work. We force a proportionally large per centage of the black people to be on welfare. We won't let you get married to have legitimate children.We make you drop out of sch ol. All of the drive-by shootings are the fault of the white man. All of your problems stem from the fact that you think that your ancestors were slaves over 135 years ago. Not all black people in this country are descended from slaves. ( I know that it i hard for you to trace your family tree).

Benjamin Hestley - 12/26/00 05:46:09 My Email:behest@juno.com Ethnicity: Confederate-American Country: USA State: Alabama How did you find our page?: SCV Dispatch

Comments: I will not repeat the pro-Confederate Flag information that has been provided. Sufficeth it to say that those in favor of the Confederate Flag have presented their case exceedingly well. And it is backed up by actual history as it occurred. HOwever, I must point out the lie in your first statement that the Confederate Flag is recognized all over the world as representing racist, hatemongers, etc. You are as far from the truth in this in tance as you are throughout the entirety of your article. The Confederate Battle Flag has been, is being and will be flown whereever people are attempting to throw off totalitarian governments. It has been seen in the former USSR satelite states who thr w off that oppressive government. In England it is a respected banner by a large number of English people. Lastly, if blacks are reminded of slavery when they see the Confederate Battle Flag, then why are they insisting that the US National Park Service r mind all visitiors to the War for Southern Independence battle sites about slavery. By the same token, why do Civil Rights Museums show blacks being hosed down by fire hoses and attacked by police dogs when they rioted in Southern cities? There seems to be a disconnect here between these two issues. First, I don't want to be reminded,th n secondly, yes, I want to be reminded. In each instance the black thinking is to discredit every aspect of the truth of history as it relates to white society.

- 12/26/00 05:07:56

Comments: If malcom were alive I'd tell him to kiss my ass along with the rest of you!

B. Isaacs - 12/26/00 03:51:11 Ethnicity: Southern White

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Jon Ayres - 12/26/00 03:48:28 My Email:jonjosie@worldnet.att.net Ethnicity: does it matter? Country: USA State: GA

Comments: It's really a shame and embarrassment that so called educated people such as yourselves really know nothing about what your talking about and writing in these so called newspapers. All of you like to make these attacks against Georgia's State flag and Confederate, yet not once has any of you provided any proof to back up any of the statements or charges you make. Maybe because you know that you can not do it and that you are nothin but liars. I have told quite a few of you before, especially that so called journalist Cythiane Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution that if she could prove just one statement of hers concerning the Georgia State Flag, that I would myself work for changing it, yet not one bit of proof from her. You people need to wake up because the people of the South know what's going on and what the truth is. They know that people like the jokes with thsi web page is nothing but racist hypercrites who only wan to make money and put themselves in the limelight. It really was a pleasure to see that jerk Tim Livingston going around Georgia making a ass of himself. He came to Albany, and maybe had around 60 people march with him to protest the Georgia State Flag, considering the population of Albany is 160,000, an all he can get is 60 people, that speaks for itself. Then that jerk goes to Savannah, and he can only get maybe 45 people to march. But the biggest thrill was after the march when he had some speeches going. One of the speakers was that homeless man t at has tried suing Georgia about it's state flag and what does this man say, "That the only flag he ever saw the KKK carry was the pre 1956 State Flag." Now you talk about people looking like fools, That clown Tim Livingston and Mr. Barton looked like tw of the biggest fools there could be. Let's face it, the true racists in the State of Georgia are those like you who attack my family, my heritage and my history. You would make good klansmen because you think just like they do. The majority of Georgia's citizens do not want the Georgia St te Flag changed and and have the right to be pride of their heritage. The majority have rights also, it is not just the minority who have rights. When the time comes that the majority want the flag changed, then it will be changed. The majority of Geor ia's citizens know the truth about the flag, and this bull that you clowns keep trying to put out does nothing but make you look like lying fools. But if that is the way you wish the public to perceive you to be, fine, you have nobody to blame but yourse ves. Because the people of the South are not stupid, except for a small number such as yourselves who feel that you can pass your ignorance on to others. You may think I'm mad and you'll be right. Ninety members of my family served with honor in the Confederate Army and I'm damn proud of them all. This country has produce no finer men than the men who served in that army. Men like Gen. Robert Edward Lee who hated no one, done more for this country than any other man this country ever produced. He had the courage to do what he believed was right and then he did all he could to bring this country together after the war was over. These men hated none. I is racists like you who try and divide people, who look down on people, you would have fit right in the German Nazi Party. Fact of the matter is that you are nothing but a bunch of ignorant racist hypocrites. Never once has any of you spoken out against the slave trade that goes on in Africa today. Not once have any of you spoken out against the proverty so high is Central frica that families have to sell their daughters to slave traders to be carried to the middle east to be sold into slavery. Not once has any of you spoken out against the practice of slavery that still goes on in the Middle East. Not once have any of you spoken out against slave raiders raiding villages in the Sudan killing all the men and boys and taking the women and girls to be sold as slaves in the middle east. Yes, the actions of all of you racist hypocrites speak louder tha the racist trash you write and spout out in speeches. I have tried to do something to stop the slave trade in Africa. Our War Between the States had nothing to do with slavery till Lincoln was losing the war. How come you do not mention that Lincoln h d no intention of letting blacks stay in this country, that is why the US bought Liberia, to send all the blacks there whether they wanted to go or not. The only reason blacks were not sent out of teh country was because Lincoln was killed. Lincoln had o love of the black race. Just study your history. The facts are there. By the way, if any of you would take the time to check facts, you would find that during the so called boycott of the racist klan with a tan "NAACP National Association of Always Complaining People", business, and tourists grew by leaps and bounds. Yes that boycott had a effect, it brought more money into South Carolina, that is a fact that can be proven, all you have to do is act like reasonable reporters and check the facts first like you should have been taught in school if any of you even graduated from college. Let us look at South Carolina where the NAACP boycott is in full force. The S.C. Dept. of Parks, Recreation & Tourism has recently released the following data. Tourism in S.C. created a record economic impact in the state up 11.1 % to $15.65 billion from last year. Investment in tourism related businesses is up 66.5%. Tourism related tax receipts increased 9.7 %. Visitor spending hit a record $7.14 billion. This is the same threatened boycott that is supposed to panic business leaders in Georgia? Furtherm re, when BMW built their plant in South Carolina & Mercedes their plant in Alabama both states flew the Confederate battle flag over their capitols. This is fact and pretty well shoots to hell all that trash you are trying to pass off. Now let us look briefly at the history of economic growth in Georgia under the current flag. Census data shows an increase in population from approximately 3.6 million in 1956 to 7.7 million (projected) in 2000. Yearly Per Capita Income rose from approx. $1,400 in 1956 to an estimated $27,000 in 2000. The Gross State Product has increased from approx. 9 billion dollars to an estimated 275 billion dollars in 2000. Industry has thrived under the current flag. For example, Delta Airlines chose to make Georgia its home base in the '60s. Home Depot and CNN both were created and prospered under the Confederate banner. Coca Cola, the invention of Confederate Captain John Pemberton, has grown in Georgia to be an international giant. Growth in Georgia has been so explosive that Gov. Roy Barnes has created G.R.T.A. to reign in and control runaway growth and its accompanying sprawl that threaten the quality of life in Metro Atlanta and other parts of the state. However, one municipality has not shared in the growth and prosperity of the region, despite millions of dollars in state and federal funds that have been poured into t. That city is Atlanta itself. Following the election of Maynard Jackson as Mayor in 1973 and throughout each succeeding administration we have seen Atlanta lag behind the rest of the metro area. Interestingly enough, Atlanta has been the leader in the attack on Southern symbols refusing to fly the current flag at any city controlled venue. What is the business climate like in Georgia at the present time while we still fly the Saint Andrews Cross on our current flag. The Atlanta Constitution reports Metro Atlanta is in the top 10 locations ( #5 ) for venture capital investment with 714 million invested in the 1st quarter of 2000. Forbes Magazine reports Metro Atlanta to be the 2nd best place in the nation to do business. Tom Cousins sees a second Silicon Valley forming here, with 46,000 high tech jobs being created here between 1993-1998. How can this growth be explained n light of these politically correct assertions regarding the flag. We are told that the current flag is an embarrassment to Georgia and will retard growth in the 21st century if it is not replaced with the pre-56 flag. Why have business leaders, the media and politicians not presented this information to the public in any forum dealing with this matter? Could it be that the Gwinnett Co. Chamber of Commerce, following the lead of the city of Atlanta, has decided to use the pre-56 flag as a instrument to control growth in that county which grew from 43,000 pop. in 1960 to 441,000 in 2000. Next, bas d purely on the real figures, we may expect G.R.T.A. to require municipalities with runaway growth and sprawl to revert to the pre-56 flag also. In any debate regarding which flag best represents the state, these questions should be addressed: 1. From 1882 to 1930 how many minorities were lynched in Georgia under the old flag? 474 2. What flag flew when was Leo Frank was lynched in 1915? The old flag 3. What flag flew over the era of Jim Crow? The old flag 4. What flag flew when Hank Aaron played ball in Georgia for the Braves? Current flag 5. What flag flew when Herschel Walker & Charlayne Hunter went to UGA? Current flag 6. Under what flag has Georgia experienced unprecedented growth and prosperity? Current flag To make the case that a South which displays proudly its rich heritage is somehow at an economic disadvantage, one must use facts and figures. Sheer wishful bigotry will not suffice. The evidence thus far does not indicate any economic disadvantage other than that which is attempted by individuals and groups profiting by perpetuating hatred and distrust among the races. Regions around the world market and sell their heritage to the touring public and no region has more to offer than that which enjoys more books written about it than any other; the most famous region in the world: the South. People know the truth and they know who the liars are. All of you would have made George Orwell proud. Your doing exactly the same thing he wrote about in 1984 where "Who controls the past, controls the future: Who controls the present, controls the past" Orwell described a society where historic events were rewritten or erased from the record if they contradicted the accepted propaganda of the ruling elite. This politically correct version of events was used to indoctrinate a people who had no other source of information. It appear we are seeing such a system emerge in our own time. If anybody is to be blamed for the problems of Georgia, it is know nothing, do nothing jokes such as you. If you do not like the Confederate flag, fine, that is your right, just keep your racist butt up north and stay out of the South. You have no right to demand that the majority who tak pride in their families, heritage, and culture bend to your rules and demands. This country was founded on majority rule and untill the majority wishes for teh Confederate flags be removed from public, they will fly. But I will admit that your racist h lf truths do serve a usefull purpose, they open a lot of eyes to what the truth really is and who the racists really are. So keep up your good work, it only helps us so the truth of who teh real racists are. Jon D. Ayres Albany, GA

Jon Ayres - 12/26/00 03:48:00 My Email:jonjosie@worldnet.att.net Ethnicity: does it matter? Country: USA State: GA How did you find our page?: researching communist organizations in the US

Comments: It's really a shame and embarrassment that so called educated people such as yourselves really know nothing about what your talking about and writing in these so called newspapers. All of you like to make these attacks against Georgia's State flag and Confederate, yet not once has any of you provided any proof to back up any of the statements or charges you make. Maybe because you know that you can not do it and that you are nothin but liars. I have told quite a few of you before, especially that so called journalist Cythiane Tucker of the Atlanta Journal Constitution that if she could prove just one statement of hers concerning the Georgia State Flag, that I would myself work for changing it, yet not one bit of proof from her. You people need to wake up because the people of the South know what's going on and what the truth is. They know that people like the jokes with thsi web page is nothing but racist hypercrites who only wan to make money and put themselves in the limelight. It really was a pleasure to see that jerk Tim Livingston going around Georgia making a ass of himself. He came to Albany, and maybe had around 60 people march with him to protest the Georgia State Flag, considering the population of Albany is 160,000, an all he can get is 60 people, that speaks for itself. Then that jerk goes to Savannah, and he can only get maybe 45 people to march. But the biggest thrill was after the march when he had some speeches going. One of the speakers was that homeless man t at has tried suing Georgia about it's state flag and what does this man say, "That the only flag he ever saw the KKK carry was the pre 1956 State Flag." Now you talk about people looking like fools, That clown Tim Livingston and Mr. Barton looked like tw of the biggest fools there could be. Let's face it, the true racists in the State of Georgia are those like you who attack my family, my heritage and my history. You would make good klansmen because you think just like they do. The majority of Georgia's citizens do not want the Georgia St te Flag changed and and have the right to be pride of their heritage. The majority have rights also, it is not just the minority who have rights. When the time comes that the majority want the flag changed, then it will be changed. The majority of Geor ia's citizens know the truth about the flag, and this bull that you clowns keep trying to put out does nothing but make you look like lying fools. But if that is the way you wish the public to perceive you to be, fine, you have nobody to blame but yourse ves. Because the people of the South are not stupid, except for a small number such as yourselves who feel that you can pass your ignorance on to others. You may think I'm mad and you'll be right. Ninety members of my family served with honor in the Confederate Army and I'm damn proud of them all. This country has produce no finer men than the men who served in that army. Men like Gen. Robert Edward Lee who hated no one, done more for this country than any other man this country ever produced. He had the courage to do what he believed was right and then he did all he could to bring this country together after the war was over. These men hated none. I is racists like you who try and divide people, who look down on people, you would have fit right in the German Nazi Party. Fact of the matter is that you are nothing but a bunch of ignorant racist hypocrites. Never once has any of you spoken out against the slave trade that goes on in Africa today. Not once have any of you spoken out against the proverty so high is Central frica that families have to sell their daughters to slave traders to be carried to the middle east to be sold into slavery. Not once has any of you spoken out against the practice of slavery that still goes on in the Middle East. Not once have any of you spoken out against slave raiders raiding villages in the Sudan killing all the men and boys and taking the women and girls to be sold as slaves in the middle east. Yes, the actions of all of you racist hypocrites speak louder tha the racist trash you write and spout out in speeches. I have tried to do something to stop the slave trade in Africa. Our War Between the States had nothing to do with slavery till Lincoln was losing the war. How come you do not mention that Lincoln h d no intention of letting blacks stay in this country, that is why the US bought Liberia, to send all the blacks there whether they wanted to go or not. The only reason blacks were not sent out of teh country was because Lincoln was killed. Lincoln had o love of the black race. Just study your history. The facts are there. By the way, if any of you would take the time to check facts, you would find that during the so called boycott of the racist klan with a tan "NAACP National Association of Always Complaining People", business, and tourists grew by leaps and bounds. Yes that boycott had a effect, it brought more money into South Carolina, that is a fact that can be proven, all you have to do is act like reasonable reporters and check the facts first like you should have been taught in school if any of you even graduated from college. Let us look at South Carolina where the NAACP boycott is in full force. The S.C. Dept. of Parks, Recreation & Tourism has recently released the following data. Tourism in S.C. created a record economic impact in the state up 11.1 % to $15.65 billion from last year. Investment in tourism related businesses is up 66.5%. Tourism related tax receipts increased 9.7 %. Visitor spending hit a record $7.14 billion. This is the same threatened boycott that is supposed to panic business leaders in Georgia? Furtherm re, when BMW built their plant in South Carolina & Mercedes their plant in Alabama both states flew the Confederate battle flag over their capitols. This is fact and pretty well shoots to hell all that trash you are trying to pass off. Now let us look briefly at the history of economic growth in Georgia under the current flag. Census data shows an increase in population from approximately 3.6 million in 1956 to 7.7 million (projected) in 2000. Yearly Per Capita Income rose from approx. $1,400 in 1956 to an estimated $27,000 in 2000. The Gross State Product has increased from approx. 9 billion dollars to an estimated 275 billion dollars in 2000. Industry has thrived under the current flag. For example, Delta Airlines chose to make Georgia its home base in the '60s. Home Depot and CNN both were created and prospered under the Confederate banner. Coca Cola, the invention of Confederate Captain John Pemberton, has grown in Georgia to be an international giant. Growth in Georgia has been so explosive that Gov. Roy Barnes has created G.R.T.A. to reign in and control runaway growth and its accompanying sprawl that threaten the quality of life in Metro Atlanta and other parts of the state. However, one municipality has not shared in the growth and prosperity of the region, despite millions of dollars in state and federal funds that have been poured into t. That city is Atlanta itself. Following the election of Maynard Jackson as Mayor in 1973 and throughout each succeeding administration we have seen Atlanta lag behind the rest of the metro area. Interestingly enough, Atlanta has been the leader in the attack on Southern symbols refusing to fly the current flag at any city controlled venue. What is the business climate like in Georgia at the present time while we still fly the Saint Andrews Cross on our current flag. The Atlanta Constitution reports Metro Atlanta is in the top 10 locations ( #5 ) for venture capital investment with 714 million invested in the 1st quarter of 2000. Forbes Magazine reports Metro Atlanta to be the 2nd best place in the nation to do business. Tom Cousins sees a second Silicon Valley forming here, with 46,000 high tech jobs being created here between 1993-1998. How can this growth be explained n light of these politically correct assertions regarding the flag. We are told that the current flag is an embarrassment to Georgia and will retard growth in the 21st century if it is not replaced with the pre-56 flag. Why have business leaders, the media and politicians not presented this information to the public in any forum dealing with this matter? Could it be that the Gwinnett Co. Chamber of Commerce, following the lead of the city of Atlanta, has decided to use the pre-56 flag as a instrument to control growth in that county which grew from 43,000 pop. in 1960 to 441,000 in 2000. Next, bas d purely on the real figures, we may expect G.R.T.A. to require municipalities with runaway growth and sprawl to revert to the pre-56 flag also. In any debate regarding which flag best represents the state, these questions should be addressed: 1. From 1882 to 1930 how many minorities were lynched in Georgia under the old flag? 474 2. What flag flew when was Leo Frank was lynched in 1915? The old flag 3. What flag flew over the era of Jim Crow? The old flag 4. What flag flew when Hank Aaron played ball in Georgia for the Braves? Current flag 5. What flag flew when Herschel Walker & Charlayne Hunter went to UGA? Current flag 6. Under what flag has Georgia experienced unprecedented growth and prosperity? Current flag To make the case that a South which displays proudly its rich heritage is somehow at an economic disadvantage, one must use facts and figures. Sheer wishful bigotry will not suffice. The evidence thus far does not indicate any economic disadvantage other than that which is attempted by individuals and groups profiting by perpetuating hatred and distrust among the races. Regions around the world market and sell their heritage to the touring public and no region has more to offer than that which enjoys more books written about it than any other; the most famous region in the world: the South. People know the truth and they know who the liars are. All of you would have made George Orwell proud. Your doing exactly the same thing he wrote about in 1984 where "Who controls the past, controls the future: Who controls the present, controls the past" Orwell described a society where historic events were rewritten or erased from the record if they contradicted the accepted propaganda of the ruling elite. This politically correct version of events was used to indoctrinate a people who had no other source of information. It appear we are seeing such a system emerge in our own time. If anybody is to be blamed for the problems of Georgia, it is know nothing, do nothing jokes such as you. If you do not like the Confederate flag, fine, that is your right, just keep your racist butt up north and stay out of the South. You have no right to demand that the majority who tak pride in their families, heritage, and culture bend to your rules and demands. This country was founded on majority rule and untill the majority wishes for teh Confederate flags be removed from public, they will fly. But I will admit that your racist h lf truths do serve a usefull purpose, they open a lot of eyes to what the truth really is and who the racists really are. So keep up your good work, it only helps us so the truth of who teh real racists are. Jon D. Ayres Albany, GA

M. Bean - 12/25/00 23:40:22 My Email:beaner@exp.net Ethnicity: Caucasian Country: USA State: Texas How did you find our page?: SCV Dispatch

Comments: I am a member of the SCV. While I can see some of your view point on the flag. I too deplore the use of the flag by the Klan and other racist groups. However, I must also look at the fact my ancestors fought for the South. I know from my research none of them owned slaves. The were farmers and laborers. They fought to protect Texas from an invasion of outsiders. No one with any sense can condone or defend Slavery. I feel it was dying before the war and needed to be ended. Many Southerners of the ti e felt the same. Perhaps our outlooks are completely different. However, we are all Americans, this was decided by our ancestors, Black and White. My greatest hope is all those involved in this issue can sit down as responsible, intelligent individuals and settle this matter to everyones' agreement. Thank You for Your Time M. Bean

Mike - 12/25/00 20:15:13 My Email:Silverfish@angelfire.com Ethnicity: guess Country: CSA State: Georgia How did you find our page?: search

Comments: As usual, it's always how minorities feel about something that really count, right ? Funny how you make a big noise abot how biggotted you say the flag is, but you don't see your own biggotry in your actions. In my oppinion, the NAACP must go ! No compromises. In my oppinion, you quote Malcom X, a biggot in his own right. I guess I have the right to call the kettle black, since by your actions I see nothing less that biggotted actions. Why don't you lay off. And yes, "Whites" GAVE you everything you have, including Affirmative Actions. To quote the Confederate Flag edict from the NAACP: No white in his right mind should support ANYTHING that does in his own race.

White on Brother - 12/25/00 16:40:33 My Email:Northerer@aol.com Ethnicity: Shouln't be asked! Country: other State: NA How did you find our page?: DRIFTED IN

Comments: The United States Flag would still stand for Slavery today if Lincoln hadn't had enough with the duration of his invasion of the South. The Negro was only just a pawn in the war chest game of Lincoln, nothing more. SLAVERY STILL EXISTED IN NORTHERN STATES LONG AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER!Get over it, your free today, leave the White's to symbolize their lost country!

Leland Hamner - 12/25/00 16:17:02 My Email:conchoreb Ethnicity: Confederate Southern American Country: CSA State: Texas

Comments: Two thoughts: 1. Though it is true slavery is bad,(I say IS as it is still a thriving institution in Africa) the slaves of the American South fared much better than those in the West Indies and South America--and the descendants of the latter don't spend near as much t me whining as do their North American counterparts BTW. African-Americans could have had it worse--their ancestors could have remainded free and in Africa. You should thank God every day that "My heritage is your slavery" as y'all like to say. 2. As African-Americans now seem mainly concerned with our glorious battle flag,all of your battles must be won,right? No more "rights" to fight for I suppose? All the problems of black pregnant unwed teens,drugs,unemployment,welfare-slavery, and crime ha e been solved, have they? One thing is for sure--all of these real problems will be eliminated before our Southern Cross disappears!

Ron Wilhelms - 12/25/00 14:58:00 My Email:rwilh80270@aol.com Ethnicity: American Country: CSA State: Missouri How did you find our page?: e-mailed

Comments: Mr. Crawford appears to me to be a racist and bigot of the worst sort. The War of Northern Aggression was NOT about slavery but, purely and simply, a matter of economics. I fly the Battle Flag in front of my home every day, and would remind negro Americans that the First Amendment gives me the right to do so; BUT, it does NOT g ve you the right NOT to be offended. So, if my flag bothers you, do what the Marxist liberals tell us to do about their TV cesspool: turn it off; or, in this case, look the other way! (By the way, "concede" is not spelled "conceed", or maybe that's "ebonics"?)

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LARRY LEE SPENCE - 12/25/00 14:44:09 My Email:pvt21stvirginia@hotmail.com Ethnicity: Confederate Southern American Country: USA & CSA State: NORTH CAROLINA How did you find our page?: EMAIL

Comments: I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS WEB SITE AND HAVE BEEN VERY OFFENDED BY IT.CERTAIN GROUPS AND PERSONS CONTINUE TO ATTACK MY COUNTRY,HERITAGE & ANCESTORS. I THINK WE SHOULD START DOING THE SAME THING CERTAIN OTHER GROUPS ARE DOING TO OUR SYMBOLS & HERITAGE.THERE A E CONSTANT ATTACKS ON THE FLAGS OF THE SOUTH,THE MISSISSIPPI AND GEORGIA FLAGS.EVERYONE SAYS THIS IS GOT TO DO WITH SLAVERY B.S.THE AMERICAN FLAG HAS FLOWN OVER SLAVERY FOR A MUCH LONGER TIME THAN THE SOUTHERN FLAGS.BUT NO ONE KNOWS THIS,OR THE YANKEE HIS ORY BOOKS EXPLAIN IT.STOP ATTACKING OUR HISTORY AND HERITAGE.I HAD FAMILY WHO FOUGHT IN THIS GREAT WAR,AND EACH TIME SOMETHING OF THE SOUTHERN PEOPLE IS ATTACKED IT A DISGRACE AND DISHONOR TO THEM.AND I'M MAD AND TIRED OF ALL THESE ATTACKS.MY ANCESTORS NE ER OWNED ANY MAN AND DIDN'T BELIEVE IN IT.THEY WERE CHRISTIANS AND FARMERS.THEY DID NOT FIGHT FOR SLAVERY,THEY FOUGHT FOR THERE LAND AND RIGHTS AS HUMAN BEINGS.PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ATTACKING PEOPLES HERITAGE AND SYMBOLS.WE DONT DO THIS TO THERE HISTORY AND HERITAGE,OR MAYBE WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.THINK ABOUT SLAVERY UNDER THE U.S.FEDERAL GOVERMENT.IT REALLY DID HAPPEN.UNDER THE U.S.FLAG.SO LET SOME OF THESE GROUPS MIND THERE OWN BUSINESS AND DEAL WITH THE REAL ISSUES OF TODAY.LETS DON'T START ANOTHE CIVIL WAR. A CONFEDERATE SOUTHERN AMERICAN, LARRY LEE SPENCE

A. HARPER - 12/25/00 14:27:44 My Email:ALBRTHR@AOL.COM Ethnicity: BLK Country: USA State: MI. How did you find our page?: SURFING THE WEB

Comments: WHAT I THINK SOME BLACKS SHOULD DO BEFORE THEY MAKE A ASS OF THEM SELFS IS READ THE BOOK BY ERVIN L. JORDAN JR.===BLACK CONFEDERATES AND AFRO-YANKEES IN CIVIL WAR VIRGINIA,ALSO BLACK SOUTHERNS IN GRAY,BY RICHARD ROLLINS AN LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE NEGRO IN THE CIVIL WAR BY BENJAMIN QUARLES,DON'T LET THE NAMES FOOL YOU THE WRITERS ARE EDUCATED BLACKS,STOP PLAYING ON RACE AND READ, WE LIKE TO DOWN BLACK AN WHITE BUT WE DON'T DOWN THE GREEN BACK DOLLARS.THE WAR IS OVER SO ARE THE SIT INS OF THE 50 AN 60.WE DIE IN ALL OF AMERICAS WARS THE FREEDOMS WE LOST CAME FROM WITHIN

Steven Elkins - 12/25/00 09:00:00 My Email:steven_elkins@email.com Ethnicity: European American Country: US State: Georgia

Comments: Please tell me how many African Americans can actually relate to slavery? None of you were even born. All of you want to forget about the horrors of slavery, but almost everyday you continue to dig it up. Why?

Tommy Aaron - 12/24/00 12:53:20 My Email:popcortn@yahoo.com Ethnicity: American Country: USA How did you find our page?: Looking for hate groups.

Comments: This is the most hateful page of intolerance I have been too. Praise God most will see it for what it really is. May God save us all from those that would destroy this great country. Tommy Aaron

Brenda Harvey - 12/15/00 21:10:53 My Email:Paradise904308@cs.com Ethnicity: African-American Country: USA State: North Carolina How did you find our page?: Someone e-mailed it to me.

Comments: I appreciate what you're doing for the African race. Thank you.

Stephanie Coleman - 12/08/00 02:54:16 My Email:kit19139@webtv.net Ethnicity: african Country: philadephia State: pennsylvania How did you find our page?: surfing

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Adama Ndoeka - 12/07/00 13:52:35 My Email:a_ndoeka@hotmail.com Ethnicity: African Country: Sierra Leone How did you find our page?: Extremely educative and entertaining

Comments: Keep up the good work.

Ronald Jenkins - 12/04/00 10:05:32 My Email:huri@email.msn.com Ethnicity: white Country: Wales How did you find our page?: web search (google)

Comments: I am second year history student and the "Middle Passage" is a core subject. Contemporary information about this topic is very important in trying to understand the true nature on what must have been terrible experience for the slaves. It is also just as mportant to keep this information available so more people can begin to understand the injustices carried out in the past. Keep up the work. R.J.

Deane Brown - 11/19/00 03:32:52 My Email:brownd@osseo.k12.mn.us Ethnicity: african american Country: U.S. State: Mn. How did you find our page?: search engine

Comments: It is good to know that important information such as this is available to help students learn the truth about race relations in America.

Keisha - 11/17/00 23:38:48 My Email:kprincess79@hotmail.com Ethnicity: African-American Country: US State: NY How did you find our page?: browsing

Comments: This is an uplifting & very educational website. Its nice to know that there are sistas & brothas out there who are willing to speak and advocate their views and idealogies, not sugar-coated, but truthfully. As a History major, I can see this website is g ing to be extremely helpful for upcoming papers and projects. Thank you again...

TIMOTHY CATO - 11/14/00 03:36:28 My Email:T-Love31@webtv.net Ethnicity: BLACK MAN Country: UNITED STATES State: S.C How did you find our page?: through a conversation with A fellow reader

Comments: JUST SHOCKED TO FIND OUT HOW THE WHITE MAN HAS BEEN MANIPULATING OUR PEOPLE ALL THIS TIME.

THOMAS ARMSTRONG - 11/12/00 14:36:25 My Email:TARMST7775@AOL.COM Ethnicity: BLACK Country: U.S. State: MICHIGAN How did you find our page?: SELF

Comments: I would like to thank you for this web site and search engine. I came upon your page when searching for a copy of the infamous Willie Lynch speech. I first went to keyword search on AOL and typed in Willie Lynch; to my surprise, there were no results. I as trying to find this speech to share with my girlfriend who had not heard of it. We were watching a Fred Price on television. Dr. price mentioned the Willie Lynch attitude. My girlfriend has never heard of Willie Lynch and curiously asked who was the p rson that the preacher was discussing in his sermon. With a little more work than I thought it should have taken, we found it on your site. The other research engines found no results, Compton’s Columbia, and all of the other Internet encyclopedias selected, produced no results when the Willie Lynch name was entered. I thank you for this much needed research tool.

S. Geger - 11/04/00 21:42:43 My URL:http://www.geocities.com/tcbflash_98 My Email:tcbflash_98@yahoo.com Ethnicity: Same color blood as yours...RED Country: United States of America State: Maryland How did you find our page?: Surfing through Confederate sites

Comments: First of all, I must compliment you on your site from one webmaster to another. It's beautifully made, easy to navigate, and you certainly do make it known of your opinion. Thank you for welcoming my comment, regardless of what it may be. My opinion is this: The Confederate flag is looked down upon due to the ignorant and idiotic hate groups of today, and those of yesterday. It's truly sad that these groups can influence a society this much, regardless if we are a part of those groups or not. They de ecrade this flag by flying it along side a Swastika. Your views go against the Confederate flag as you compare it to slavery. The South did not represent slavery. This ENTIRE COUNTRY represented slavery, therefore, you must hate the stars and stripes a well. Yes, I fight to allow the Confederate flag to fly. Not only is it because I believe all history should be accounted for, but also because it is my right to fly it, the same right as yours to protest it. Why can't we all realize that there may be some things in life we don't like, or don't agree with...and if we don't like it, don't look at it? Just because we don't like something, does that mean we should fight to take away that person's rights? I'm worried about when the day will come when org nizations will be fighting to lower the stars and stripes as well. After all, it does represent an entire country that utilized slavery. Anyway, I appreciate my comments being welcome. As a fellow American, I wish you good luck in your fight...just as hope you wish me good luck in mine. Feel free to visit my site as well as listed above. It is about the Confederate flag, but you will notice that it was done in very good taste. I invite you to sign my guestbook as well, with any kind of comment or o inion you would like to mention. All comments are welcome, except those of hate. Thank you, and take care.

Gregory X.Townsend - 11/03/00 00:11:35 My URL:http://angelfire.com/biz/youngmenunite.index My Email:g.x.townsend@usa.net Ethnicity: black Country: USA State: Maryland How did you find our page?: Willie Lynch Search

Comments: I was the Executive Administrator for Young Men Unite. I wanted to creat black awareness, to show young black men the meaning to be black. To understand why we react the way we do, and do the things we do. In my research my wife stumbled on to Willie L nch, three years ago doing a black history board for the organization. After reading the speech, I made it my mission to make everyone aware of these teaching that have been passed down to white generations without black Americans every knowing this. I as surprised how many educated blacks, with doctorates never heard of Willie Lynch or this speech. So I support your effects and will continue the fight to uplift and free young as well as old black people minds.

nlbender - 11/02/00 20:55:00 My Email:nlbender@earthlink.net Ethnicity: african-american Country: usa How did you find our page?: search engine

Comments: Good.

asher - 11/01/00 17:48:50 My Email:www.hoffyguy@aol.com Ethnicity: white Country: us State: sc How did you find our page?: ask jeeves

Comments: great site i can not agree with you more. The flag should be taken down and there should be efforts to change mississippi and alabama flags as well. I think that the article about coke flying the georgia flag is a little over board though.

joe blow - 10/29/00 18:25:49 My URL:http://nun ya buisness My Email:nadda Ethnicity: REd neck Country: usa State: FL How did you find our page?: doesn't matter

Comments: ya'll suck and the REBEL flag is not a symbol of racism

Andro Tomic - 10/25/00 19:32:41 My Email:ALT1020d1@ecu.edu Ethnicity: White Country: U.S. State: Virginia How did you find our page?: looking for information on a paper

Comments: You are all a bunch of ignorant pieces of shit. You have no idea what you are talking about. Hardly any southerners during the conferacy owned slaves, they just fought for their country. Because of this you can't imply that everyone in the south during that time was a racist. If you came to where i live and started saying this bullshit you write about, that would be a big mistake. I have a lot more to say to you, but it is a waste of time to tell you everything to a person like yourself.

David Lancaster - 10/23/00 00:40:59 My Email:dlanc@hotmail.com Ethnicity: Confederate-American Country: C.S.A. State: TEXAN via Mississippi How did you find our page?: Web search looking for inteligent life of any color

Comments: Hey JC, You know that famous speech you like so well from the governor of Virginia. Well why dont you tell people that it was in response to the Northern offers to support slavery in the south if the southern states would not depart the union. Come on JC you present to be an educated man. Therefore you know that a half truth is not the truth at all. By the way your self gratifying use of the pictures of children to spread your propoganda is WRONG!!! The child featured on your guest book page wo ld be more interested in playing cops and robbers with my kids if you were not filling his head with HATE. Of course in your finatical world that was a racist remark i just made.

David Lancaster - 10/22/00 20:39:31 My Email:dlanc@hotmail.com Ethnicity: Confederate-American Country: C.S.A. State: TEXAN via Mississippi How did you find our page?: Web search looking for inteligent life of any color

Comments: WOW!! I'll recomend this page to anyone with an interest in the subjects covered. Once you get past the birage of propoganda this platform is one of the best i've found at giving each side a voice. (Refering to the guest book) My views for the most part oppose those of J.C. Unfortunatly J.C. has the upper hand in "our America" today so i will take full advantage of the opportunity to state my opinions. First of all to address the endless nonsensical commentary from all the so called "white people" who lack intelect enough to deal with reality. You know who you are. Go back to Africa! The stupidity of that statement rivals that of those made by JC concerning what he calls the Confederate flag. Think about what your saying. If your desire is to cleanse the USA of anyone not Anglo Saxon you will need to start at the b gining. Step one is to return to the middle east to find your own heritage. The distinctive diffrences and for that matter the conflicts between Negroid and Angloid did not occur by accident and should not serve as the axis of your arguments. So in light f that please restrain yourself from insulting your own race by spewing idiological phrases ment to hurt others. I could go on but instead i will spare those of us who know the repeated banging my head against a brick wall. Cant wait to hear all the sugge tive replys that statement will bring. Ni**er(PC?)! Redneck! Wetback! Gook! Say them out loud, spell them out, print banners and run television commercials. None of your efforts will subdue anyone who is angry with you. The fact is if you PISS ME OFF and you happen to be black. Chances are go d that i'll call you a nigger. You would take advantage of any weapon available in a battle wouldn't you JC? Yes, i think you have displayed that with this web page. Realize that a human being has the capacity for hate and at some point it will be used. S op whining and make a sincere effort to progress with those of us who control our instincts and display the traits of a truly superior being. (Not Race) OK! Now to the subject at hand. JC's Confederate flag. FACT The Naval Jack was never commissioned as a flag representing the Confederate States of America. I personally recognize the original Bonnie Blue. FACT Slavery was abolished in the southern states to further demolish its economy and assert control over its people black and white. Thus the nothern states kept their own slaves black and white. FACT The beloved Abraham Lincoln not only made pro slavery statements in his inaugural address. He only sucu ed to the freedom of southern slaves when it was realized that the north would never be able to match the souths ability to provide opportunity for working class people if the two were to split. The northern wealthy whites who produced durable goods on th backs of the lower class whites were the driving force behind freedom of southern black slaves. If you JC believe that the "Rebel Flag" is a symbol of all the injustice perpotrated against blacks. I would suggest that you promote its use in all public forums as a reminder to everyone of your need for special priviledge. Furthermore you must at all osts seek the removal of any whites currently inhabiting the realm of poverty so they are not to be confused as deserving those same priviledges. To sum it all up. JC is no better than the people his imaginary cause is against. So if anyone would like to join JC's cause please be aware of the following. 1) If you attack my heritage, I will fight back! 2) If you are white and believe that you owe the black people(who think like JC) some type of retribution they will accept you only until the time that their race is considered superior to your own 3)If you are black or rather "African-American" you must realize that each cultural entity be it black/white, nothern/southern, Christian/Jew or any other has a past of persicution and hardship. A present struggle toward realizing their own agenda and a f ture that is uncertain accept for the fact that it will come whatever it may be. Final Comments: Please address me as a Confederate-American. Its only fair right? Anyone who would like to discuss, debate or argue either against or for my views is encouraged to email dlanc@hotmail.com "ANY email received from supporters of the NEONAZI bowell movement or the Loony LOUIE he's so FARGONE will receive the SPECIAL NEEDS attention they truly deserve. VISIT NAAWP.com Truly, Dave

Mine - 10/21/00 19:14:29 My URL:http://hometown.aol.com/plumprplzr/myhomepageprofile.html My Email:plumprplzr@aol.com Ethnicity: Southern American Country: America State: NC How did you find our page?: Lacking fact, knowledge, compassion, and full of prejudice.

Comments: THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A CIVIL WAR IN AMERICA! a Civil War is a fight between two or more factions for control of a government. Jefferson Davis wanted to take over Washington, no more than George Washington wanted to take over Britain. The second war for i dependece or the "War of Northen Aggression" started because of politicians just like in Vietnam. Here are some quotes for you from the great slave lover Lincoln. During his inaugural address, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with he institution of slavery in the states where it exists, I believe I have no legal right to do so." In a letter to the New York Daily Tribune during the war he wrote, "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to sav or destroy slavery". A statement shortly after election, "I will say then, that I am not, nor have ever been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races...I am in favor of having the superior posit on assigned to the white race". Here's one from Gen. Ulysses S. Grant. "If I thought for one moment this conflict was in any manner for the purpose of freeing slaves, I would surrender my sword and resign my commission". We did not fight over slavery th n. Why are we fighting over it today? The "FLAG" every one is upset about NEVER flew over a slave ship, a port of entry, any slave camp or slave sale, or any slave owners property. African kings had been selling their people into slavery for decades be ore the first ones were sold to Americans. Oh and don't forget, there were white slaves sold in America too. The books you read in school were written to teach us what the democratic leaders want us to believe. Under the Southern Government or a true R publican government the states and the people in those states keep the sovereignty. Think about this, if we achieve racial harmony, won't the NAACP go broke and be out of work when big corporations quit sending them billions of dollars to keep hate stirr d up. Americans of all color are being lied to. Find out the truth, it ain't on TV or in the Movies.

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mike - 10/21/00 18:42:23 My Email:mikeandtammi@aol.com Ethnicity: Southern American Country: US State: MS How did you find our page?: Does it matter

Comments: Do symbols of slavery bother you? If so then you and the N.A.A.C.P. need to give back every american dollar you have because every one of them have a picture of American Heroes that had slaves. Want to do away with slavery. Why don't you start with Afri a where slavery still exists in the year 2000. Instead of believing the lies you have been told by our democratic government, read real history and you will find the north didn't care about slaves one way or the other. In fact Lincoln only freed the sla es in southern states after the war. Grant kept his slaves until the 13th amendment went into effect. Southern States were the ones that put the motion on the floor to ban the slave trade. Less than 10% of southern farmers could afford to keep slaves. Over 70,000 black men fought to protect thier land and homes during the war. In New York in 1863 Lincoln's troops publicly hung 83 blacks for refusing to fight the south. History can not be changes. Salvery was a terrible time, but removing a symbol wil not change history. You can not judge the society of the 1800's by the standards of the 21st century. ROOTS was a movie, it was not history. Yes hate groups have used the Confederate flag, but they are not part of our Southern Heritage. They also use he cross as a symbol, want to get rid of it too. Dr. Martin Luther King preached tolerance. Tolerance of all people by all people

Clarence Brown - 10/16/00 15:56:20 Ethnicity: African from Maryland State: MD How did you find our page?: Referral from Black Voices

Comments: I appluad you brothers and sisters for presenting the agenda so strongly and directly. You will always have detractors, especially those who do not share our background and tradition. Stay strong, stay relevant, stay the course!

Ember - 10/06/00 05:08:58 Ethnicity: white Country: U.S. State: Oregon/California How did you find our page?: was researching slave trade in Africa

Comments: I read these comments, and read so much hatred. White people have sure committed some horrible atrocities. mm-hmm. So has almost everyone. It's important to remember what has occured, to learn, to try to rectify past wrongs, but it cannot be done thro gh hatred and anger. Hatred is ugly. So very ugly. I am so tired of it. A whole lot of shit happened, and the elapsal of time is no excuse to forget about it, but nor are the original crimes excuses to continue hating. So, white folk, black folk, and all you other-colored folk, think about what's important.

Hope - 09/28/00 23:20:52 My Email:hopeyd@sun-spot.com Ethnicity: Southern White Country: U.S.A. State: KY How did you find our page?: Ask Jeeves

Comments: First of all I would like to say that all of you are obviously very uneducated and do not know enough history to be preaching about this. No one ever says anything about the American Flag but have you ever thought of what flag the slaves were brought to merica under. Yes the stars and strips. What Constitution was written and stated that only land owning whites could vote. Who's Constitution supported slavery in the beginning? Yes America's. What you must realize is the Civil War has been over for abou 135 years. The Civil War wasn't over slavery and Abe Lincoln didn't free anyone. The war was over state's rights and economy. Ending slavery was just one of the results over the war. Further more African-Americans have not been treated the worst of a y people in History. The American Indians have, and you don't hear them complaining about the American Flag that flew against them! You know what I do I fly the Confederate Flag with Dignity not Bigotry. If anyone doesn't like it they can look the othe way. What has happened to Freedom of Speech?!

Michael Victorian - 09/22/00 02:26:18 My Email:root205634@aol.com Ethnicity: African-American Country: United States State: Louisiana How did you find our page?: Metacrawler

Comments: Keep fighting for our people.

Jon S. Haas, CLP - 09/20/00 17:34:14 My URL:http://www.triad-group.com My Email:jonclp@triad-group.com Ethnicity: White/Ukranian-Prussian Country: United States State: Florida How did you find our page?: Invitation from editor

Comments: Interesting site, albeit containing some reversed prejudice! This is a site good for a slanted perspective of Afro-American scene. I will be back to keep learning.

Archie w. Scott - 09/19/00 21:46:18 My Email:Telpage@webtv.net Ethnicity: Black Country: USA State: NC How did you find our page?: looking for information. on the willie lynch speech.

Comments: We have a long way to go, The black race is truly lost...

Ron Jenkins - 09/15/00 10:07:28 My Email:huri@email.msn.com Ethnicity: cacausian Country: Wales UK How did you find our page?: SEARCH ENGINE

Comments: Thanks for your efforts on this site, information will assist me during my degree course. RJ

Gayle Turner - 09/08/00 15:53:05 My Email:epsgtt@langate.gsu.edu Ethnicity: Afrikan-American Country: USA State: GA How did you find our page?: historynotes

Comments: Grateful for the honored title of Guest to the much needed points of light shining through. Thank you.

Djehuti Sundaka - 09/07/00 22:55:19 My URL:http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/Outlet/8743/PatrusiKalendar.html Ethnicity: Sunda Country: Duwamish

Comments: My goodness, with all the comments made concerning the flag issue, you'd think there was nothing else here. The Confederate flag is no less racist than any other flag of European imperialism being called "American". It's really insane how Europeans can ant & rave about "their" heritage and liberty while still in occupation of the American's land whose ancestors were slaughtered for some racist "Manifest Destiny" that the Europeans continue to benefit from. Liberty? Justice? Since when? For who? How "great" would this land be without the benefits of ignoring liberty for conquest and ignoring justice for the exploitation of peoples around the globe? Yet, those who so greatly glory in their atrocities are themselves greatly exploited by their very own government (http://www.taxgate.com). Poetic Justice! Hey Runoko, glad to see you apart of this group. Have you checked out historynotes lately? I've been trying to email you but keep getting the same results of your mailbox being full. Get in touch with me and let me know what's up. As for the rest of you, great site! Keep up the great work. Malik would be proud.

Melody Winters - 09/05/00 12:45:10 My Email:mwinters@cc.memphis.edu Ethnicity: Italian-American (social category : Black) Country: USA State: Tennessee How did you find our page?: searching for info for research paper for class

Comments: As a person who "grew up" in the late 60's/early 70's, I am please to see that once again people are taking an interest in issues that affect us all (Believe me, it's not just a "black thing" as some people say). Those issues that affect African-American , affect us all (although some people refuse to admit it and/